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TTATT in a Can... finally finished!!

by ILoveTTATT in

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ok so... how to condense all the flip-flops and doctrinal changes, and show graphically how the different doctrines changed, and when?.

ttatt in a can!!.

enjoy ;).

Faithful Witness

Wow! Thank you putting this together.

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How long have you been an online "apostate?"

by Faithful Witness in

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i really do not like that word (apostate), as used to represent someone who decided to remove themselves, or was removed from the influence of the watchtower... but i am curious.. how long have websites like these been in existence?

when did this movement begin?.

personally, how long did it take for you to dare exploring information outside the watchtower publications, about jehovah's witnesses (especially online)?.

Faithful Witness

I really do not like that word (apostate), as used to represent someone who decided to remove themselves, or was removed from the influence of the Watchtower... but I am curious.

How long have websites like these been in existence? When did this movement begin?

Personally, how long did it take for you to dare exploring information outside the Watchtower publications, about Jehovah's Witnesses (especially online)?

We studied for quite some time, and I do remember how they told me in one of those early lessons, that there are ALL KINDS of rumors and lies about JW's. When people hear you're studying the bible with us, they might try to stop you. Who do you think is motivated to stop you from studying about what the Bible REALLY teaches? That warning stuck with me for a long time, although it is embarrassing to admit now. (Not that I thought it was actually Satan, but I sort of bought into their reasoning about people lying about them).

Even after we discovered some TTATT, and decided not to study and attend meetings anymore, I just removed myself from the whole idea. It took some turmoil and problems from our JW family, in order for me to do any online research. I was away from the JW's for about 2 years, before I even began looking online for information. I had no idea that there were so many people affected by the judgmental and hypocritical practices of the Watchtower Society. Not sure why I was so clueless, but I guess it had to affect me personally, in order for me to start caring.

How long has the TRUTH been out here? (It took me long enough, but I'm glad I found it before it was too late)

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Strike 3 for the elderette and me! (???) I never heard a JW talk SO much about Jesus!

by Faithful Witness in

miss k and her friend miss w arrived promptly today.

our scheduled topic of discussion: jesus' claim to be "the way, the truth and the life..." john 14:6 since she was basing this topic choice on the fact that i had quoted that verse, i'm not sure why... she spent what seemed like a very long time, hopping through scriptures that all said that jesus was the truth, the way, or the life.

ok, so we agreed... i kept waiting for her to get to a point, or sway from this principle.. of course, she summed up with scriptures that show how jesus submits to the father, and what does that mean we should do?

Faithful Witness

So, in response to her repeated question, "Have we come to you, and taught you anyting that was not true in the bible?"

I said, "Well, there is that thing claim that Jesus told us to call God 'Jehovah.' I don't agree that it should be added to the New Testament. After Jesus came, HIS name was put above ALL names..."

She then said, "We aren't pronouncing Jesus's name right either, so maybe we should take His name out of the bible! Would that be the answer?"

I said, "No... I am not disagreeing with the use of the name in the OT. I just don't see where Jesus told us to call God by his name. He called him Father."

"He said He came to sanctify God's name. I showed you where He said He had come to make His Father's name known."

"But he didn't tell us how to pronounce it... and there is no record of Jesus ever actually saying the name."

Miss K then opens her grey bible, and starts looking up the reasoning behind adding the divine name to the NT. We start reading it together, and she says, "I have not read this yet, so I don't know what is in here..."

We read the intro and the first 2 bullet points, and she paused. I went back and was reading, and how it stated that there was a discovery of "some very old fragments of the Greek Septuagint that existed in Jesus's day, discovered in the mid-20th century." (some, not how many or any other description here... how do they know they were from Jesus's day? Not specified). "So, in Jesus's day, the scriptures did contain the personal name of God." Then it goes on to say how the name was removed, and the history of the Jews and how Acts 15:14 states that "God had taken a people for his name."

This is where they call upon logic, to reason that James would not make such a statement if no one in the first century knew or used God's personal name.

Logically...

So I asked her, "So are they saying that there was no accurate bible, until the mid-20th century?"

"No. It doesn't say that!"

I asked, "Doesn't God have the power to preserve his word?"

"Jesus said that his word would be corrupted after His death..."

I asked, "So, is the bible true or not?" She said it was.

She then said something about there being a difference between a "version," like the KJV or NIV, and a "translation." She brought out her big blue book, and showed me a flow chart that showed where they got their bible translation from. I asked her who did the translating, and she gave me the JW answer about men "not wanting to be glorified." (or accountable, however you want to look at it...)

Then she asked me who wrote the KJV. I said I didn't know, but that my friend that I mentioned, and her husband have done some extensive research on bible translations. I told her that the KJV was actually the only version of the bible that is not copyrighted. If you want to make copies of the KJV, you can. You can copy as much or as little as you want, and you can even sell it! If you want to make any changes, or print your own bible, you need a copyright. In order to get a copyright on a new bible, you have to change a certain percentage of the text in order to qualify for a copyright.

She admitted she didn't know anything about that. Then she asked me if the KJV was accurate. Why did they take out the name of Jehovah 7000 times?? I explained that I wasn't defending any translation or version of the bible, but pointing out the fact that they needed to make significant changes to their new translation of the NWT, in order to get that copyright. And I added that some of the changes made DID actually change the meanings. They did take out parts, and even added things, like Jehovah's name, for example... where there was no record of it in original manuscripts.

Then she told me how the fact that JW's have been spreading the name of Jehovah, has made the church actually start using his name also. It turns out that the JW's are the ones who have told everyone what God's name is! Hallejuiah! Seeeee!! WE are the truth! blink blink

I pointed out the change that had been made, in removing the brackets in the text. The old NWT had brackets to indicate where the translators had added words. The new version removed those brackets, so the words just look like they were there all along. I pointed out that sometimes those words could change the meaning. Miss W seemed to have heard about this, because she said "but aren't they usually articles, like 'a' and 'the'?" I admitted that I hadn't done a lot of research on specifics, although I had found a few, and it really did have changes made.

I showed her how in the KJV, it has italicized the words that were not in the original manuscripts. When I read it, I can tell what words were added. Miss K asked if that was ok, in my opinion... I said yes, since I could identify what was added. So she asked me if the KJV was completely accurate and true.

I said, "Maybe NONE of it is true! Should we just throw it out the window?" The argument that there was corruption in one version, but corrected by unidentified "scholars" in the 20th century, was supposed to be proof that her bible was more accurate, even though they admitted they had made logical assumptions to make changes (in order to get a new copyright).

She gasped... "We're not saying that!" hahaha (last week, she had told me we could use any version of the bible that we wanted to use...)

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Strike 3 for the elderette and me! (???) I never heard a JW talk SO much about Jesus!

by Faithful Witness in

miss k and her friend miss w arrived promptly today.

our scheduled topic of discussion: jesus' claim to be "the way, the truth and the life..." john 14:6 since she was basing this topic choice on the fact that i had quoted that verse, i'm not sure why... she spent what seemed like a very long time, hopping through scriptures that all said that jesus was the truth, the way, or the life.

ok, so we agreed... i kept waiting for her to get to a point, or sway from this principle.. of course, she summed up with scriptures that show how jesus submits to the father, and what does that mean we should do?

Faithful Witness

An interesting and quirky anecdote, inserted in the conversation here by Miss W, who comes along as backup and is mostly quiet during the discussion.

She was talking about those big birds, the buzzards or vultures that eat dead bodies. We live in Michigan, and we don't see them a lot around here. I did see a couple last week, and I suspect that maybe it is because they are eating the leftover dead animals that are just now uncovered from the massive amount of snow we had this winter. We found a skull in our yard, probably from a raccoon. I'm sure the winter was very hard on the wildlife, too... but I haven't really thought about the birds. I just see the deer carcasses in the ditches and in the fields.

She said, "Well, I was talking to ___ the other day, and she was saying how she had seen more of them recently. Then we were together, and we saw a group of about EIGHT of them! We looked at each other, and said, 'Is this another sign of the END??!' "

I gave her an inquisitive look, and she shrunk a little in her chair, "You know, how the birds are going to feast on all the dead bodies at Armageddon..."

It was kind of awkward, and I guess no one wanted to go there (duh!) ... so I chuckled a little and said, "A little JW humor..." (smile)

It was kind of comical, but also made me feel so sorry for this poor woman. No wonder she is plagued with all these ailments, that keep her from serving as Jehovah intended... Maybe if she didn't spend so much time worrying, she would have the vitality to be a full time pioneer!!

They have not made any claims about being "happy," but if the truth is that scary, that it is causing delusions and day-mares... wow.

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Strike 3 for the elderette and me! (???) I never heard a JW talk SO much about Jesus!

by Faithful Witness in

miss k and her friend miss w arrived promptly today.

our scheduled topic of discussion: jesus' claim to be "the way, the truth and the life..." john 14:6 since she was basing this topic choice on the fact that i had quoted that verse, i'm not sure why... she spent what seemed like a very long time, hopping through scriptures that all said that jesus was the truth, the way, or the life.

ok, so we agreed... i kept waiting for her to get to a point, or sway from this principle.. of course, she summed up with scriptures that show how jesus submits to the father, and what does that mean we should do?

Faithful Witness

Blondie: Thanks for those references! Great points. I am learning a lot from this lady, and yesterday she told me she is enjoying the challenge, and the chance to defend her beliefs.

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Strike 3 for the elderette and me! (???) I never heard a JW talk SO much about Jesus!

by Faithful Witness in

miss k and her friend miss w arrived promptly today.

our scheduled topic of discussion: jesus' claim to be "the way, the truth and the life..." john 14:6 since she was basing this topic choice on the fact that i had quoted that verse, i'm not sure why... she spent what seemed like a very long time, hopping through scriptures that all said that jesus was the truth, the way, or the life.

ok, so we agreed... i kept waiting for her to get to a point, or sway from this principle.. of course, she summed up with scriptures that show how jesus submits to the father, and what does that mean we should do?

Faithful Witness

Robert: She asked me if I wanted to continue, and I said I had to think about it. I told her I have been tossing it around in my mind, since the only in-depth perspective I have taken on "the bible" was using that guide published by the Watchtower. I feel that I need a better bible foundation, before I can really discuss things with her fairly. Right now, we have left it open-ended. I told her I would get back to her, and she said she'd check with me later in the week.

She really wants me to go through the Bible Teach book with her again, and I have to consider that. (I have a friend who is severely warning me to stay away from her, for my own protection... and I even told her that. She was very curious about my friend, and her beliefs. I told her I wasn't going to defend someone else's beliefs, as she started picking her apart).

Searcher: I tested the waters yesterday, when I told them I had read some of the recent articles. "I know what kind of things are being said about anyone who dares to question things." (we have agreed that we are only discussing what the bible says, so quoting the Watchtower is not going to work).

I even confessed that we had attended the meetings where they made adjustments last fall. I told her how curious it was, to see people suddenly come to life, when they got to the questions about the preaching WORK.

She quickly jumped in and asked me if she and Miss W had come and told her anything that was not found in the bible. (sigh)

It was somewhere around this time, when she opened the apostate door again for me. She said, "I know there is so much information on the internet... and I can tell you that 95% of it is lies." She also mentioned news or TV shows.

I didn't let her get away with that again. So I said, "Like what? What is one of the lies being spread on the internet?"

She paused to think of her answer. I was hoping for something juicy, but no... "Like that JW's don't belive in Jesus." (sigh again... REALLY? Please use google next time and get back to me with a different lie to defend!)

When she was trying to convince me to go through the Bible Teach book with her, I reminded her that I've done that whole book already. I told her what our experience was, with our first teacher. We got to the end of the book, and stumbled upon a video of an old Christian talk show. John Ankerberg was interviewing a panel of former Jehovah's witnesses. The things they said made our jaws drop. "I remember, I was bawling and saying that there had to be an explanation for the things they were saying..." I could tell they were getting nervous, so I didn't talk about anything that was said. I told her we were hoping that Elder E had a good explanation, so we showed him the video. After about 5 minutes, he said, "Oh, they are APOSTATES!!!" and he turned his back and refused to address anything these people were saying. I said to Miss K, "One of the ladies was of the annointed class. One man had worked for the writitng department, answering people's letters. There was another couple that was prominent in the organization. They were still Christians, and seemed like honest and sincere people. They were JW's! Just because they are no longer JW's, that means that everything they say is a lie???" I told her how Elder E had started going on about how these people were "fornicators! idolators! liars!" Then I did mention that we had asked him if he could get us a copy of the article about 1975, the magazine that the man was holding up... at this point, Miss W jumped in and said, "There were NEVER any predictions made about 1975!" I didn't push it, but I did want to ask her why she was in such a hurry to get baptized in 1973. (I know you are 75'ers... but we won't go there, when I don't have to prove anything in the past was wrong. What you are teaching today has enough holes).

She didn't really answer any of those concerns, but later said, "It sounds like some trust has been violated." I'm pretty sure she was talking about what I had told her about Elder E.

A few times she said, "It seems like there are some FLAGS being raised in your mind about the JW's." I kept hoping that she would say something like, "there's nothing wrong with being in a cult, if it pleases Jehovah..." hahaha I didn't go for the throat.

I do understand that Jesus told them to go and make disciples, and preach to the far corners of the earth. He did not, however, tell them to write it down and report it back to their congregation, so they could keep track. She did mention the numbers that were recorded, about how many were baptized, how many were at pentecost. I added, but there are no specific instructions from Jesus or even Paul, that they should continue to track their efforts and report how much time they are spending spreading the good news. "No, but Jehovah DID use specific men, and the people were supposed to follow their instructions..."

One other thing she brought up, and I think it was when we were still discussing whether Jesus actually told them to call Jehovah "Father," or by his name. She mentioned the Lord's Prayer. (she didn't know the whole thing by heart... I found that interesting). She said, "Do you think people realize what they are actually praying for, when they recite that prayer?" I gave her a puzzled look.

"Our Father, in the heavens, let your name be sanctified, Let your Kingdom come... Do they really think about what they are praying for?"

I said it was a nice prayer to say in unison with a large group, but most people do not probably think about that part of the prayer, no.

She said, "Do you think they realize that they are actually praying for Jehovah to cause destruction to this system, and that so many people are going to die at Armageddon before the Kingdom will be restored?" or something like that... like the people are praying for their own destruction. Did you ever think of that?? (No, most people don't think of the kingdom coming that way... I'd have to agree... haha)

I said, "I like the part about forgiveness, where we ask for forgiveness and remind ourselves to forgive each other. Forgiveness is one of the main points of that prayer, since that is what Christ came here to do for us."

This was leading into our discussion about why they decided to add Jehovah's name to the New Testament (and other changes in their new translation of the NWT).

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Strike 3 for the elderette and me! (???) I never heard a JW talk SO much about Jesus!

by Faithful Witness in

miss k and her friend miss w arrived promptly today.

our scheduled topic of discussion: jesus' claim to be "the way, the truth and the life..." john 14:6 since she was basing this topic choice on the fact that i had quoted that verse, i'm not sure why... she spent what seemed like a very long time, hopping through scriptures that all said that jesus was the truth, the way, or the life.

ok, so we agreed... i kept waiting for her to get to a point, or sway from this principle.. of course, she summed up with scriptures that show how jesus submits to the father, and what does that mean we should do?

Faithful Witness

The whole time, she kept repeating how we get to the FATHER through JESUS... no one can get to JEHOVAH without JESUS.

She snuck in a few comments about those that Jesus was working with today, and did bring me to a few verses that showed where Jesus was going to give his authority and power BACK to God later.

But I must say, she really played the Jesus card.

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Strike 3 for the elderette and me! (???) I never heard a JW talk SO much about Jesus!

by Faithful Witness in

miss k and her friend miss w arrived promptly today.

our scheduled topic of discussion: jesus' claim to be "the way, the truth and the life..." john 14:6 since she was basing this topic choice on the fact that i had quoted that verse, i'm not sure why... she spent what seemed like a very long time, hopping through scriptures that all said that jesus was the truth, the way, or the life.

ok, so we agreed... i kept waiting for her to get to a point, or sway from this principle.. of course, she summed up with scriptures that show how jesus submits to the father, and what does that mean we should do?

Faithful Witness

Miss K and her friend Miss W arrived promptly today. Our scheduled topic of discussion: Jesus' claim to be "the way, the truth and the life..." John 14:6 Since she was basing this topic choice on the fact that I had quoted that verse, I'm not sure why... she spent what seemed like a very long time, hopping through scriptures that all said that Jesus was the truth, the way, or the life. Ok, so we agreed... I kept waiting for her to get to a point, or sway from this principle.

Of course, she summed up with scriptures that show how Jesus submits to the Father, and what does that mean we should do? (blink blink) - I hate when she does that weird 'What does THAT mean...???" type open-ended question. It makes me feel like I'm guessing, and how am I supposed to read a crazy JW's mind? So I'd say an answer, and follow it with, "Is that what you were looking for?"

So she kept pointing out how Jesus submits to the Father. Ok. Got it. So therefore... we submit to Jesus, and do what... ?? Follow his commands, beginning with his greatest commandment, love.

She keeps assuming that if she puts my questions "aside" or "on the shelf" for now, that I am just going to agree that she is teaching the truth. Since we have agreed to only discuss inspired writings, she does not make me read WT literature to reason me into a corner. We hopped around a little bit, because she really is fishing for what I don't agree with from the JW's.

She wants me to limit my comments to our experiences together. She asked, "Have we (motioning to Miss W & herself) come here, and taught you anything that wasn't true, and taught in the bible?" I answered, "Well... There is that claim about the faithful and discreet slave, and how the JW's have turned a parable into a prophecy about themselves. That doesn't make sense to me, how you can pluck a single verse from the bible, and use it to claim absolute power over millions of people."

So, we again returned to Matthew 24. I looked at the chapter, and I started skimming through it, asking her how they came to the conclusion that Jesus appointed them in 1914, based on this one verse in the parable that compares what it means to be a faithful or evil servant. I paraphrased the parables and stories around it... the fig tree, the 10 virgins, these other 3 slaves, and how they behaved...

Why would this one verse actually be a prophecy about someone being appointed sometime in the future?

She started looking at the verse, word by word... asked me, "What do you think this means, if The Lord appoints someone over his household?" I said, "Back in those days, rich people or lords, had slaves, right? I'm thinking of the story of Joseph, where he was in charge of the household while the master was away, so would also be in charge of making sure all the slaves got their meals on time... Not hogging all the food for himself... (grin)

"What do you think this means? Meat in due season? What is meat, or food, as it says in my bible?" I again said, "It could actually be FOOD, but I know your interpretation is spiritual food... meaning that someone is supposed to interpret your beliefs for you... and what about the evil slave? Who is that?"

She had no answer, but tried to switch to something else... and I added, "then there are these other 3 slaves mentioned here, right after... I think all of these parables are examples for us to follow, where he compares how different people respond to him and his teachings. You can be faithful, or you can be evil."

She was not satisfied with that answer, but I think it was at that point that the topic of the slave went back on the shelf in her brain.

There was no more reaching her, because as soon as she can't answer something or back up her claims from the bible, she repeats the line, "Well, I just know the JW's have the truth. I just know it. i wouldn't be here, if I didn't know it."

She asked me if I thought about looking at the bible from a "fresh perspective."

I told her I was finally doing that, after being taught once from the JW Bible Teach book. I am actually reading the bible for the first time, and in my study of the book of Matthew, i came to a realization. There is a BIG difference between having someone come and tell you how to understand the bible, and actually just READING it for yourself.

I told her that as I read the words of Jesus, I felt that he seemed to be often talking about the JW's, and that a lot of what he said contradicted what I had been taught.

She said, "Like what?" and I took her to the first one that really did stick out for me in my bible study. Matthew 6:1-5, where Jesus warns them about doing their works, to be recognized by men. This hit a nerve.

Matthew 6:1-5 “Take care not to practice your righteousness in front of men to be noticed by them; otherwise you will have no reward with your Father who is in the heavens. 2 So when you make gifts of mercy, do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be glorified by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. 3 But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your gifts of mercy may be in secret. Then your Father who looks on in secret will repay you. 5 “Also, when you pray, do not act like the hypocrites, for they like to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the main streets to be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full."

I said, "Why do you write down and keep track of all your work, then turn it in to be recognized by men? When I read that, it reminded me of my mom talking about her field service report, and it just filled me with this sinking feeling of dread."

Miss K said, "We aren't being glorified by men! We are not sounding trumpets and hollering on street corners! What I do for Jehovah's organization, I do out of LOVE. I am not compelled to do it. They don't force me to do it. I do it out of LOVE. I choose to do it."

Miss W piped in with similar comments.

They were both clearly upset by this accusation... so I asked it a different way. "Why do you report your hours, if not for recognition?"

Miss K, "So the brothers can keep track of it."

I said, "GOD is keeping track... let's look here, it says..."

She interrupted, "I'm not getting any recognition or glorification from men for my work! I do it out of LOVE not because it is required!"

So I said, "Is it true that there are different 'levels' or titles within the congregation, based on how much work you do?"

She said, "No..." I said, "Pioneer..."

"Yes, I'm a pioneer..."

I said, "Does that require a set number of hours to earn that title?"

"Yes, I commit to doing a certain number of hours every month. But I do it out of LOVE!"

Miss W piped in, "and I'm NOT a pioneer, but that is because Miss K has more ability in that area, and..." she couldn't come up with a very good explanation about why she didn't work as hard as Miss K, but she clearly felt like she needed to explain herself. (it was sad to watch)

So I asked Miss K, "What happens if you don't turn in a time card at the end of the month?"

She said, "Well to be honest, I'm not going to make my hours this month. I have relatives staying over, and that's just how it is... (looking slightly ashamed) but I'm not going to get my hours this month, it's just a fact of life!"

I said, "What if you don't turn in a time card at all? What would happen?"

"They would just call me and get my hours from me. Nothing would HAPPEN!" (I'd say someone calling me and making me give a report, is actually something happening, but I didn't comment)

She just thought this whole idea was ridiculous, and why would it even bother me so much... "Well, if you're going to worry about THAT... why we fill out time cards, well..."

I said, "I don't understand why you are collecting your rewards from men, when Jesus clearly said to do your good deeds in secret."

"The society is keeping track, so they can show that the work is being done." said Miss K.

I again said, "GOD is keeping track! He sees you. You don't need to keep track for him! I think He can handle it."

Miss W chimed in, "Maybe I can help clarify the reason for this. Every year the JW's publish a yearbook..." and she proceeded to tell me a load of BS about how valuable it was to see those numbers in print. She was so encouraged to see the attendance reports from the Memorials held around the world.

"That is an attendance report... Why do you have to report the millions of hours you work each year?"

They clearly didn't think I had the right take on this instruction from Jesus. It didn't relate to a field service report at all... The society needed to keep track, so they knew that the JW's had preached to every corner of the world.

"But you DO write your name on the card, right?"

"Yes, but my name is not sent on to the branch or to New York..."

I said, "They keep it on file in your KH?"

She clearly wasn't getting the point, so I switched gears and asked her, "How much fruit have you seen from the door to door preaching work? How many new members have come in, due to the field ministry?'

Miss K went on to list several people she had converted to JW. I said, "OK, so you converted a number of people into the JW's." She corrected me, "OH NO! I didn't CONVERT anyone. They decided for themselves!"

"I know, I know, free will..."

In case you haven't figured this out yet, I did not manage to cut our time this week. I did actually speak up and talk, and even though she ran the bible verse hopping show, I kept the conversation going for much longer than planned.

She kept stacking lies and telling me they were truth... I will add the details of our interesting discussion about their use of Jehovah in the New Testament.

I wonder if any thought crossed their minds, as they filled in their time on their FS reports today.

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My Elderette is returning today to CONDUCT another conversation...

by Faithful Witness in

she has had 42 years of training and indoctrination.

i'm feeling sort of nervous, but also looking forward to it.

this will be our second scheduled session together, and we never did agree on a topic.. i'm assuming she will come with an agenda and another prepared presentation.

Faithful Witness

These are great responses! notjustyet, my husband likes your suggestion the best. :)

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So my mom called me out on Facebook today

by lriddle80 in

my dad posts the daily text on facebook everyday.

today's text had to do with disfellowshipping and this is what my mom commented on it:.

mom: i have a daughter also who is baptized but not disfellowshipped but doesn't want to learn about jehovah i pray that she see's soon before jehovah closes the door!.

Faithful Witness

lriddle: This is a great story! Thanks for sharing it.

I had a similar experience, going to a Baptist church. It's good to hear you have found a "church home."

twice shy said: "Wasn't it so nice to hear them use Jehovah's name in song. We were taught they don't recognize him as GOD ALMIGHTY."

My elderette today, told me that it is because of the JW's, that the churches are now acknowledging and using Jehovah's name. Thanks to the JW's, of course! ;) Without them knocking on every door in the world, no one would ever know God's name!